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PostSubject: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 pm

Well, sometimes we discuss politics in the CC, so here's a thread for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:37 pm

I guess I'll start this off.

Communism is bad. The way Obama is taking the U.S. will destroy the world as we know it. The U.S. will cease to be a world power.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:19 pm

Communism is good in a perfect world. The problem is, it's not a perfect world. And what about Obama's leadership is going to destroy the world?

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:10 pm

Communism is horrible. Why would ANYONE try if they got the same as the pathetic excuse of a human being? I sure as heck wouldn't try if I got paid the same no matter how poorly I do. I wouldn't take the hard option if the easy one was just as rewarding.

The U.S. won't be a major player in world affairs if we keep following Obama's policies. It only increases the debt and rewards people for failing. (Welfare)
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:56 pm

Ah, welfare, yes. I disagree with people being allowed to leech off of others unless they are physically incapable of working for themselves.

As to communism, that's why it works in a perfect world only. A world where everyone does their part, and everyone is content with the same setup.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:18 pm

And as such, Obama's plan as a whole will fail and make America fail.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:25 pm

I've never understood the whole idea of people getting paid to sit on their ass. I mean really, I know someone who is on welfare, not because they can't get a job, but because they refuse to get a job that involves leaving their house.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:54 pm

But people who work and aren't lazy (aka us) can't do anything about it. There are a lot more lazy and stupid people then there are smart people. Politicians just have to pander to them and they will get re-elected.


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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:43 pm

Lol, sad but true.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:48 pm

Well, im not american but heres the candidates for Canada's next election:



Oil tycoon. (conservative)



The photogenic. (liberal)



Chuck Norris. (NDP/Socialist)



The Hippy. (Green Party)

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:27 pm

@Redips

If social healthcare is so bad, explain why it exists for 60+ years in my country and NO ONE complains about it ever?

But no, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Hence why i would never vote for Mitt Romney.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:41 pm

Tell me why your people come to MY country for operations and such.

And only the stupid are for Communism. In fact, the wealth gap is worse for countries with Communism compared to those with a free market.



But all of this is pointless, seeing as I won't post here again.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:19 pm

Personally, I like the idea of a meritocracy--a merit-based government/work system. You divide people into varying levels of skill in science, math, military, command, leadership, etc, and then they get assigned a job at that level in that area (my specific idea, not necessarily a meritocracy in general).

Oh, and a lot of Americans go to Mexico or something to get operated on/healed... just saying.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:42 pm

Sigh...

Theres a difference between communism (dictatorship) and helping the middle class afford healthcare by taxing those who have too much money to spend.

If you wanna know what communism really is, just take a damn look @ North Korea.

No seriously, hockey/football/baseball players get paid 8M+ a year just to play a game...
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:19 pm

Sports wages are stupid.
Average physicist: 100k/year
A lot of pro sports players (probably at least as many of them as of physicists): mills per year

Physicist does a lot more. A LOT more.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:37 pm

Quantum wrote:
Sports wages are stupid.
Average physicist: 100k/year
A lot of pro sports players (probably at least as many of them as of physicists): mills per year

Physicist does a lot more. A LOT more.




We put all the athletes on a pedestal and just import all the innovative minds from other countries.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:42 pm

Hey hey hey... I'm innovative... I think I might have just explained the Higgs field via general relativity. (Won't go into detail here, but if I'm right you'll be hearing about it)

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PostSubject: Politics   Tue May 21, 2013 9:50 pm

I guess I'll start this off.

Communism is bad. The way Obama is taking the U.S. will destroy the world as we know it. The U.S. will cease to be a world power.

^ Okay. SO many things wrong with this.

Obama isn't taking the US into Communism. Adding free health care could be seen as a form of socialism. You probably think that this is a bad thing, but so many things are socialist based in western countries, and also capitalism, and anarchism in small amounts, and God knows what else. Everybody paying tax is a socialist based economical policy. Without it capitalism and the free market would collapse. Giving benefits to stop people ending up on the streets is also socialism, but it is necessary for growth as people having jobs makes them feed money into the system, which is required to stop the economy collapse. Everything is a balance in western social economics, we're not fully anything of anyone system.

As far a socialism goes, everybody paying to provide healthcare is good. 17% of people in the US can't afford health insurance. One in three of those people will get cancer. Think about that for a minute.

The only way these people stop themselves dying is to go in debt by purchasing surgery, which is not good for the economy at all. This is disregarding the fact that in this system if you're poor and you get ill you will likely die whereas if you're rich you'll most likely live. No economical arguments there; I'm not comfortable than that, nor should you be. This is the 21st century not the middle ages. I don't see how everybody paying an amount of tax that is affordable for the individual to stop this happening is a bad thing at all.

Another claim that irks me is the idea that if you're poor you obviously don't work hard. This is simply not the case. Your income depends on your intellect and where you're born. If you are born to a rich family you will generally do better than if you are born to a poor one. Why is someone with a low income automatically lazy? Tarring people with the same brush and then using it as an excuse to prohibit upward mobility is Victorian thinking, and has no place in the modern think world.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Wed May 22, 2013 9:29 am

^ Btw this is me.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Wed May 22, 2013 12:37 pm

I guest that.

Typo intended.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics Discussion Thread   Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:05 pm

^ Probably due to the sheer irrefutable truth in what I said.

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Feminism is sexist against men and is hypocritical.

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